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Re: Christoffer"Coffe",sweden
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2006, 09:56:21 AM »
and u got a reply :P

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2006, 11:41:08 AM »
Welcome Coffe! :)

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2006, 11:49:57 AM »
thanx :)

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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2006, 03:24:44 PM »
i work with homepages. i like to program php/mysql and just stared to play with ajax.

That sounds great! Maybe you can help with some stuff for this board if you have some spare time ::)

For the record: I'm not a website designer/programmer but I'm totally into enterprise data networks  :)

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2006, 03:27:02 PM »
sure :)  maby add a target="_blank" on the chat button would be nice :)

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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2006, 03:42:16 PM »
I think I would add you to my MSN list. Adding stuff sounds easier then it is for me  :P

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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2006, 05:08:02 PM »
plx do :)

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2006, 12:19:23 PM »
Welcome Uncle Coffe  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2006, 01:21:31 PM »
hello grandlady :P say hello to grandpa pella :P *grin*

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Re: Christoffer"Coffe",sweden
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2006, 12:05:41 PM »
Hello, Coffe, and wellcome!

I look in pedigree of my corso and he also have BIRILLO in it, but there is only LIR AG 95L4953 write near the name. His parent are BULAN and KIRA. I have only the picture of Bulan.

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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2006, 12:12:04 PM »
hello :) tnx :)  thats what have guessed :) would be nice to talk to the breader of birillo and getting it confirmed :)

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Re: Christoffer"Coffe",sweden
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2006, 02:19:59 PM »
Even if you can get a direct confirmation from the breeder, that would not mean everything. Too many pedigrees are not fully correct. Even the ones with registered parents are not always 100% correct. If I use a male from next door and get an owner of a great ch. male to sign my studcard, that ch. male is the father on the pedigree. Only DNA can proof otherwise and even DNA is not always 100% correct, since mutations can and do happen. I know a dog that according to the DNA test is not from his mother or father. Yet he resembles his father very much. And I know 100% sure that he is from that litter. A mutation made the DNA test fail both parents ::)
When I got my Delilah, she was without pedigree. A pedigree was promised to me, but later they just never handed it over. And since she was not tattoed, I think she never had one in the first place. I did not mind that much since it was a not FCI recognized breed. A pedigree would not be valid in Holland anyway. When the breed was recognized several people have offered me Italian pedigrees for her, so that I could breed her. I choose for a first generation pedigree. Since for a short time that was not possible in Italy, I got her a first generation RISH in Belgium. As valid as a first generation Italian LIR. I have been under attack many times for this on public forums. If I would have just gotten a false Italian LIR, no one would have known or attack me. The honest way is not the easiest way ::) And to be completely honest, if I would have this situation again, I might just take the easy way and go for that Italian LIR. This is the way it has been done many many times in the past (and probably still is being done). Just like when a male without pedigree is used on a female with pedigree, the pedigree of another male is used for the pups' pedigrees.
At this moment, I have only 1 dog with a 100% correct pedigree. My Stefany. Mother Delilah (first generation pedigree) father Ciro (also first generation pedigree). I was there when she was made and am 100% sure that the parents on the pedigree are really her parents. She has nothing on the pedigree in the second generation. So I'm 100% sure her pedigree is correct. The others.......... It's a matter of hoping that the pedigrees are correct. But that's something I can never be sure of 100%. I was not there to witness all the matings and to make sure no other males have mated those females during those heatcycles ::)
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Re: Christoffer"Coffe",sweden
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2006, 09:42:57 PM »
Thanks Nancy!

Good explaination, we have dogs in Sweden after Birillo with pedigrees so I can not understand why its important to look for something who didnt exist (spell?) .
Do you maybe have the Hipscore resultsdocument of Ettore?  Because the sweden breederclub still think that he not is x-rayed.
If you have can you send it to them.

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2006, 11:23:27 PM »
Ettore is HD B. I do not have a copy of his certificate :-[ I do have a copy of his LOI that includes the S code and the signed SACC stamp with the B. I do not have a scanner that works :-\ I will make a copy later this week and send it to you by post. Then you can send it to SKK. But it's his LOI, not his LIR. I hope Swedish Kennelclub understands that LIR and LOI are from the same dog......
We have simular problems with the Dutch Kennelclub. Yurak is known with his LIR as HD B. But they refuse to put the B on the pedigree if Yurak is on a pedigree with his LOI ::) They refuse to believe it is the same dog. We should do a DNA test to proof that?? Test the blood of the same dog twice to proof he is the same dog?? Kennelclubs are crazy...............
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